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08-20-2007, 11:22 AM
Post: #31
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Quote:An obvious one that comes to mind is the expanded distribution of promo codes in the various puppets' sigs ...

You know, Robert, I'll give you a break because it just "came to mind," which is surprising since you seem to think about puppets a lot, but I have to call you on that one - it doesn't make any sense.

Since it's "obvious" please keep the explanation short. Thanks.

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08-20-2007, 11:23 AM
Post: #32
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Just pointing out that he's the only one that calls you out without getting a reply. I was more concerned for his emotional well-being, as he's probably feeling left out and unloved.

He wasn't disagreeing with "facts." He was disagreeing with your post. The "fact" is that your post is the exact opposite of what's clearly stated in the TOS, which is what customers are held to when they sign up.

Are you saying that's not the case?

Would you guess that more users have been booted for doing exactly as the TOS says, or for doing the exact opposite?

I gave you your credit with the "Yes, you can get away with stuff" part of my last post, but that doesn't change anything. You can get away with murder too, but doing so doesn't rewrite the law.

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08-20-2007, 11:43 AM
Post: #33
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Quote:You can upload almost anything. It's downloads by others that can get you in trouble. :-)

Quote:That is a guess as to getting caught or not - that doesn't effect it's legality. Listen to above posters, not this.
To Dark, the OP: According to my read of your original post, you intend to upload with the intent to distribute material on a public website. If you don't explicitly have the right to do so, your account will be deemed in violation of the Terms of Service and canceled. Note that there are a lot of details in this that I'm not going to cover. If the material is in the public domain or is not copyrighted at all, then you should be fine. Because of the provisions of the DMCA, you should be proactive in declaring the copyright status of questionable material lest you become "guilty before proven innocent." I'm not going to inject my opinion of this state of affairs.

To anyone else using this thread as a reference: The crux of matter that will get you in trouble is the publishing of material on a website. The act of uploading or downloading is less relevant than whether you make the material available. As a matter of practicality, this has meant that most people here think that backups for personal use are acceptable - both uploading them as backup and downloading them as recovery. Note that this is personal and practical opinion and does not constitute advice, either personal or professional.

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08-20-2007, 11:58 AM
Post: #34
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Quote:As long as we're all introducing ourselves, isn't it about time you acknowledged who you are, since you obviously want everybody to "expose" themselves like Pee-wee.
As far as I'm aware, I have *always* "acknowledged" who I am - I've been "rlparker" on these forums for years, are you confused about that or do you think I have pretended to be someone else?

You seem to be pretty confused about what you think I "want" - I'd be tickled if Angelina Jolie "exposed" *herself*more often, or maybe in my swimming pool, to be sure, but other than that, I could care less about who "exposes" themselves. Wink

Who you "really" are is of absolutely no interest to me, and never has been. It's your duplicitous attempt to be "different people" at different times on these forums that I take issue with, and you have known that for years. Yeah, I know you claim that you use your puppets in "non-pejorative" ways, but I believe your posting record (at least what's left of it after the "death" of "Ardco") indicates otherwise.

Woot! your ability to "google up" that webpage address information is *rich*! Who would have imagined that someone doing business on the web for over 10 years might actually have one of their sites located by someone using a search engine ? :O

And thinking to research a username someone has used consistently for 10 years to help locate that site was an amazing piece of detective work! Wow! I'm impressed - ha ha. You know, it never even dawned on me that anyone who could operate a computer with an internet connection *could'nt* do that! In fact, I just automatically assumed they could, and would, if they were interested and I never even cared. Silly, silly me! The intarWebs *are* an amazing place, eh?

Somebody probably ought to update that page one of these days. Seems that the old saw, "cobblers' children have no shoes" might have an element of truth to it! Maybe when business gets slow enough for me to spare the time, I'll update that old thing to current web standards. It's a low priority for me though, as no one pays me to "fix" that page, and it's current sad condition has not impacted my business at all. Hell, maybe it's a kind of "badge of honor" from having been there way back then.

Since it has not impacted my business negatively, it does almost seem like that page doesn't even need to contain all that contact information that is so sadly out of date (unlike that on some of your easily locatable online information.) Smile

Of course, I decline to post such information here about *you* as these forums provide profiles where users can share whatever they want, and none of your recent puppets have chosen to share any information. Besides, there's always Google, so what would be the point? "Inquiring minds" can find more than they need to know easily enough on the web.

While one could argue that it's really poor form to broadcast email addresses in open forums, that behavior on your part doesn't surprise me at all, I've been expecting it and I have really good spam filters so, meh Wink

Quote:You're here for advertising and drumming up business, right. Don't be shy; is this you? How's biz?
No, sorry to disappoint, but I'm here to help others when I can in an effort to "pay it forward" for the way many helped me. When I was just starting out on the web, *years* before I ever did any web development work, as well as in the early days of my web development business, many old-time wizards helped me, and I always said that when I could afford to do it, and when I had knowledge to share, I would return the favor. The fact that you can't seem to believe that is really interesting, though a little sad - I'd hate to go through life being so cynical that I had to assign an ulterior motive to every act that appears to be altruistic.

I've never posted a referral code or a promo code in a sig, here or anywhere else on the web. I have posted about why I *don't* and if you go back to your "Ardco" days and look at a thread we both participated in, you could probably find it. You know I *did* once create a special promo code for a potential customer who wanted a "custom packaged one" and asked for it on the forums in the wee hours of the morning - I thought it would be nice for him to get it right away, and it was a "max discount value" anyway, so meh - I was just trying to help him out (I wonder if I ever got any secondary referrals out of that one?).

Actually, my business is fine, thanks for asking. Hey, it gives me time to hang out here and offer help when I can (*and* dick around with you now and again). While I'm always on the lookout for interesting and/or profitable projects, I turn down potential business inquiries from these forums on an infrequent but fairly regular basis - they never seem to present themselves at a time when I can take them on because of my other workload, and like said before, that's not why I post here anyway. Wink .

Of course, I can't help but wonder why you are asking these questions - I still have PM's in my mailbox from quite a while ago where I explained much of this to you in private. If you really want to "air things out", maybe I ought to just post those and let Google at 'em, so *everyone* can share! Wink

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08-20-2007, 12:19 PM
Post: #35
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Quote:Since it's "obvious" please keep the explanation short. Thanks.
For those who understand, no explanation is needed. For those who do not understand, no explanation is possible. You're Welcome!

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08-20-2007, 12:21 PM
Post: #36
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Quote:By the way, don't forget to attack mattail--he also pointed out how bad your advice was.
Don't worry, I'm not feeling left out. These posts are often fun to read, though I have long thought that if people could just ignore the Troll's bait he would go away.

What the poor OP must be thinking though - he posts "one question" and it turns into a 2 page flaming session. Just encase the OP is still reading this, don't feel bad - this has happened in several threads before.

In fact we should perhaps have one thread for all of these fun posts. We'll put it in the OT section, "Ardco-Bob-anonymous2-whatever V.S. Discussion board" Then anytime someone feels like having fun just quote the offending user and carry on. Who knows - that might really take off, we might get as many posts as the massive word association thread.

anyways, do carry on and feel free to continue to leave me out - or include me. Whatever your little heart desires.

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08-20-2007, 04:25 PM
Post: #37
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I think you protest too much.

Quote:For those who understand, no explanation is needed.

OK, so you're saying you *really* hate to admit when you're mistaken, and you're just being a dick = jerk = troll.

Quote:I'd hate to go through life being so cynical that I had to assign an ulterior motive to every act that appears to be altruistic.

And yet you often do, and so, you are living what you'd hate to.

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08-20-2007, 05:26 PM
Post: #38
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Quote:... I began keeping a list of them so that I could keep track of them all.

I'm curious about something, Pee-wee. What do you want from this? How do you gain?

Don't you think having people see Simon Jessey is untrustworthy, with cyber-stalker tendencies will make them assume Keystone websites probably uses deceptive practices too.

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08-20-2007, 05:50 PM
Post: #39
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Marissa Mayer, Director of Consumer Web Products for Google, wrote on the official Google Blog in September 2005:

Quote:We don't condone the practice of Google bombing, or any other action that seeks to affect the integrity of our search results, but we're also reluctant to alter our results by hand in order to prevent such items from showing up. Pranks like this may be distracting to some, but they don't affect the overall quality of our search service, whose objectivity, as always, remains the core of our mission.
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08-20-2007, 05:53 PM
Post: #40
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Quote:Don't you think having people see Simon Jessey is untrustworthy, with cyber-stalker tendencies will make them assume Keystone websites probably uses deceptive practices too.

Thank you for linking to my websites, Bob. I'm well aware of what you are attempting to do, but probably all it will do is imperceptibly improve my PageRank.

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