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10-19-2003, 10:56 AM
Post: #1
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What is your favourite flavour of browser?

I'm currently using 'firebird' from mozilla.

http://www.mozilla.org/products/firebird/

Also when designing your sites, which browsers do you test in?

I try and get my sites to work in Mozilla/Netscape/Firebird IE6 and Opera.

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10-19-2003, 11:08 AM
Post: #2
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With a market share of well over 95%, I honestly don't see any reason to design for other browsers but IE. I LIKED Netscape but reality rules, right?

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10-19-2003, 11:13 AM
Post: #3
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Remind me never to visit your site then... and even though 'other browsers' don't have the biggest market share you should still cater for all browsers...

That's the attitude of a bad 'designer' and i use the term designer lightly

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10-19-2003, 11:17 AM
Post: #4
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We now have a policy of designing our sites to latest CSS/XHTML standards. Therefore our sites should show up in any device that can render XHTML. If the device cannot, say Netscape 4, then the page content should still be readable in a sensible format.

My browser of choice? On my Mac, it's Safari. For every other platform, Firebird.

A recent example and a work in progress, is our own sister site:

http://www.fbamedia.co.uk/ourwork/

Notice how the top buttons are in fact <Unodered Lists> elements styled with stylesheets. So that should, theoretically, look OK in lynx or a text based browser. Haven't tried it, though.

Sorry for the off-topic dribble here. Smile

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10-19-2003, 11:36 AM
Post: #5
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Snap, i now make my sites xhtml and CSS comliant.

Using divs instead of tables etc.

here is my current piece of work, http://rawkstar.net you can disable the style sheet and remove all images (webdev extension for firebird) and it is still easily readable in text only.

I don't use IE because of all the CSS bugs it has, but i still test to make sure it works in it.

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10-19-2003, 11:56 AM
Post: #6
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I tend to use IE, but I test in everything I have. I agree that we need to be visible for as many of our clients as possible. I also generally keep code pretty simple, so it it easier to keep all browsers (even netscape 4) happy.

One exception for me. Webtv. I have given up on them. They are down to a negligible percentage on my logs. I have looked at our site on webtv, but they mess everything up.

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10-19-2003, 12:23 PM
Post: #7
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Quote:They are down to a negligible percentage on my logs.

That's exactly my point. When IE was at about 70% market share, I still insisted on using Netscape (as they were actually better methink). But now with the latter getting less than 3% of the pie, I really don't see why I should waste even 10% of my time accommodating their users (if any at all).

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10-19-2003, 02:42 PM
Post: #8
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From my stats...

Code:
#: #reqs: #pages: browser
--: -----: ------: -------
1:  3137:   1010: Mozilla
:  2880:    983:   Mozilla/1
2:  9876:    740: MSIE
:  7745:    539:   MSIE/6
:  2055:    198:   MSIE/5
:    76:      3:   MSIE/4
3:    75:     50: Googlebot
:    75:     50:   Googlebot/2
4:   220:     18: Opera
:   181:     16:   Opera/7
:    39:      2:   Opera/6
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10-19-2003, 03:00 PM
Post: #9
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I use the Mozilla Suite (I still like the swiss-army-knife multifunctionality and elaborate configuration options over the stripped-down Firebird).

My site development, however, is not "for" any particular browser, but compliant with W3C standards so that it should work in any reasonably compliant browser. And I try to follow the principle "Keep It Simple, Stupid" to avoid the likelihood of triggering browser bugs by doing unnecessarily complex things.

-- Dan
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10-19-2003, 03:06 PM
Post: #10
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So it'll work anywhere but IE? ;P (since it's not very stadards compliant... )

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