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01-12-2007, 11:56 AM
Post: #21
I'm Just Leaving...to HostMonster.Com
Quote:hiding the prices of additional services behind their facade of promo codes, but if you go for those additional services, you wind up paying the same or more as just about anyone else.

It's all a fraud...and the number of disgruntled people and hate sites directed against DreamHost on the outside of this Control Panel, says it all.
The only extra money I have ever paid was for an IP address (I needed anonymous FTP). All the pricing is clearly displayed and explained on the DreamHost.com website, and there is nothing obscure or difficult to understand. Even complete morons should have no difficulty figuring it out.

You are hopelessly deluded and misinformed. Come back here in 6 months and tell us how wonderful it has been in the monster's maw.

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01-12-2007, 11:58 AM
Post: #22
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Actually, I haven't made a single penny out of referring people here. I don't know if it was me you were addressing with your 'first amendment control panel dissent' rubbish, but I'm not American, and couldn't give a damn about your first amendment. I just think cPanel sucks.

I also think that dreamhost, from what I've seen of it so far, is excellent, and just what I need.
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01-12-2007, 11:58 AM
Post: #23
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Not to mention that your 'price comparison' compares 2 completely different plans. The equivalent plan at DH to what is offered by HostMonster is $7.95 a month when payed 2 yearly, which can be reduced even further with a promo code.
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01-12-2007, 12:13 PM
Post: #24
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"The only extra money I have ever paid was for an IP address (I needed anonymous FTP). All the pricing is clearly displayed and explained on the DreamHost.com website, and there is nothing obscure or difficult to understand. Even complete morons should have no difficulty figuring it out."

Your statement above is as good as a response from me, since you just won my argument for me. You haven't figured anything out. Just toe the company line and make your $97.00 per account...

"You are hopelessly deluded and misinformed."

Kewl, because being hopelessly deluded and misinformed is saving me $74.00+ per month and now I get excellent business people to work with and telephone service!

Come back here in 6 months and tell us how wonderful it has been in the monster's maw.

Who would want to come back here? And as for HostMonster.Com, my next move will be to my own server. They're going to help me save the money to do that.
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01-12-2007, 12:26 PM
Post: #25
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I quoted exactly what you wrote:

Quote:Mark S. "Bear" Daniels
Unless you're a bear, it's silly to include "bear" in your name.

Are you saying I should be able to tell it's a nickname, even though you take the Tony Montana crap as some sort of factual claim?

Quote:"How silly of Bluehost... claiming to be some sort of "monster."

I'm not familiar with Bluehost...a name change, perhaps?
No, Bluehost is the company you keep calling Hostmonster, just using another name. Some believe it's to re-capture unknowing Bluehost escapees.

They even have pages on their site that they just copied from Bluehost and forgot to change Bluehost to Hostmonster in the text.

There are plenty of great hosts out there, but Bluehost (and whatever else they call themselves) are not at the top of the pile.

Prediction: You won't be with them 2 years from now. Even less if you have busy sites.

Another thing you'd know if you researched Hostmonster (and found out they're Bluehost in the process) is that they DO censor customers. So, if censorship is as important as you claim it is here, you made a bad choice.

If Dreamhost is Tony Montana, Bluehost/Hostmonster could be compared to a pimple on Tony Montana's butt.

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01-12-2007, 12:26 PM
Post: #26
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LOL....

Yup...you were RIGHT!!! Look at their score at the better business bureau!!! OMG...a "B" ... man!

http://www.labbb.org/BBBWeb/Forms/Busine...D=13131294

Oh yeah and your facts are dead wrong! Smile Have a good one.
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01-12-2007, 12:27 PM
Post: #27
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Actually, I haven't made a single penny out of referring people here.

Yeah, that's sure going to encourage new customers! <G>

I don't know if it was me you were addressing with your 'first amendment control panel dissent' rubbish, but I'm not American, and couldn't give a damn about your first amendment.

King George III would be proud! Or Adolf. Or Saddam. Take your pick! And, what the hell, all our Civil Rights, Constitution, Declaration of Independence and the like, are all based on the Magna Carta anyway...

I just think cPanel sucks.

And I appreciate that! <G>

"I also think that dreamhost, from what I've seen of it so far, is excellent, and just what I need."

And I appreciate that too, however, I'm here listing my dislikes by invitation of DreamHost. They (DreamHost) are sub-standard in service, not worth the money (Excessively overpriced for what they offer) and in general, an overall fraud in my book whose people "LIE!" Emphasis, not screaming.

So, you hate the First Amendment, huh!? Involves Freedom of Speech...remember that. Otherwise, if you don't like it, well...

...I'd hate to see anyone have to shut themselves up because they dissent with the First Amendment!

Frankly, I love dissent, and if you hate the First Amendment, I'm okay with that as long as you keep speaking up and dissenting!

And, just the same, I also love it when others LOVE the First Amendment (or so they claim...), then turn right around and delete a thread!

Wins my argument for me every time...just like a lot of these poor arguments here. Not all...but most are poor. Weakly thought. They don't consider both sides, just one...theirs.

And yeah, I have to agree...this DreamHost Control Panel sucks, too.
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01-12-2007, 12:55 PM
Post: #28
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You keep floating around a '$74' saving figure everywhere, but you really are quite misleading in quoting that figure. Since you didn't pick up on it when I posted about it before, here it is broken down for you, so even you might be able to understand.

Host Monster offer a package that is 200GB storage, and 2TB a month bandwidth. The equivalent package here at DH is the 'Crazy Domain Insane!' package, which is $7.95 a month when you pay 2 yearly, $9.95 otherwise. However, you are quoting the price for the 'Strictly Business' package, which is completely different. This makes you either:

1. Stupid
2. A Liar
or 3. Misleading

of which 2 & 3 are exactly the accusations you are throwing around. I've noticed that you love throwing the word 'dissent' around for some strange reason, to try and make yourself sound smart or something. I'm going to go with option 1 then. I wouldn't like to think you were a hypocrite after all. That's OK though, some people are stupid and can't help it, and we just have to work with them.

Now, onto your next point. The reason I haven't made a single penny out of referring anyone was because I signed up 2 days ago, after being quite dissatisfied with other hosting companies. I like this one, and I can see myself staying. I will see how it goes in the 97 days, but I can't see myself moving to be honest.

Now, comparing me to world dictators. Technically, you should have invoked Godwin's law at the mention of Hitler and automatically lost Tongue But I'll let that one slide just so I can say, boy, you really are stupid. I didn't say I didn't like it, or that I don't agree with it, just that I don't give a damn about it. We have freedom of speech in the UK too you know...

Next: You keep saying that people are deleting threads and complaining about it, but I'd love to know why this one hasn't gone if that is the case? Maybe you can enlighten me?

Now I could tell you where to take your '$74 savings' combined with accusations of 'Poor Arguments' and shove them, but I'm not going to resort to (too many!) personal attacks, 'cause that just gets messy.

Finally, I don't know who you are agreeing with when you say "And yeah, I have to agree...this DreamHost Control Panel sucks, too.", but I certainly didn't say that, and noone else I have seen has said that either. Care to rephrase your 'poor arguments' accusation while misquoting people there?

I'd love for you to point out the flaws in my argument, please go ahead.

And just a word of advice: Maybe if you had been a bit more polite in the first place, people would be more willing to help you with your problems and give you the support you need. The support here has been great so far when I have asked them anything, and I can imagine that they would show you little interest when you start throwing around that attitude. You come on here, onto the forum for this site, bad mouth the company & say you are gonna put the same message on '70 ' of your sites, threaten legal action... dude, if you don't like the hosting here, just leave it & go somewhere else. It's exactly that kind of attitude which will mean you won't get on with anyone you deal with in life, and they are likely to show you little sympathy when you are having problems. Noone does business by throwing accusations around and trying to spread a 'hate campaign' about the company. I'm very sorry you have had a bad experience, but what you are doing (or attempting to do) is pathetic.
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01-12-2007, 12:56 PM
Post: #29
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Quote:King George III would be proud!
I think he died recently.

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01-12-2007, 12:58 PM
Post: #30
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Quote:King George III would be proud! Or Adolf. Or Saddam.
I certainly hope you are not comparing His Majesty with Hitler. George III may have ended up going nuts because of illness, but his legacy includes the defeat of Napoleon and the start of the industrial revolution.

I think the DreamHost control panel is far superior to cPanel. I like being able to manage every aspect of my hosting, including my account, from one logically-designed system.

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