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04-05-2006, 10:05 AM
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A site about Dreamhost
http://www.dreamhost-sucks.com/

It looks pretty over-exxagerated to be honest. When people get into trouble they'll usually beef up their story a little to make it sound alot worse than it actually is.

I for one am running 4 joomla CMSs and 2 SMF forums, along with a few misc scripts, and have run into no problems at all. The uptime and speed have always been nothing but excellent for me =\

I guess maybe they just ran into a bad streak of luck.
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04-05-2006, 11:07 AM
Post: #2
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I had a look at the site. It amazes me that they've actually bothered to make the effort. Of course, the fact that they conceal their identities means they aren't prepared to stand by their statements, and therefore their comments are essentially meaningless.

Quote:I guess maybe they just ran into a bad streak of luck.
Perhaps some of them were booted out for spamming, or maybe because they ran applications that were full of security holes or resource hogs.

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04-05-2006, 12:42 PM
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Quote:I guess maybe they just ran into a bad streak of luck.

The BBB issue was explained recently by a DH Honcho.

They're just disappointed they didn't get balloons, flowers and a bear. :-) Then again, they haven't actually left DreamHost yet.

Quote:It amazes me that they've actually bothered to make the effort.

Easy with a one-click...

Quote:Of course, the fact that they conceal their identities means they aren't prepared to stand by their statements, and therefore their comments are essentially meaningless.

DH knows who they are. Regardless, your statement is incorrect. Have you seen the rifle carrying Al-Sadr militia guys - wearing face covers (and not women)? Concealing identity is a tactic. Repressive regimes always want "papers."
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04-05-2006, 09:50 PM
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How awful Sad

Not all hosts are perfect but Dreamhost are one of the best ones I've seen, compared to the other hosting companies!

I am a to-be-graphic designer and I need alot of space for my graphics. Only Dreamhost can support my websites.
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04-06-2006, 04:15 AM
Post: #5
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I've never had a problem with DH, minus the occasional downtime but it's only *been* occasional. Ah well, whoever does run the site should have just gone to a dedicated server if they weren't impressed with the shared ones. A little poking around shows they did that anyway see this site which a couple runs through the nslookup command pointed me to. See? Who says shells are just for web hosting?

Yes, I have an opinion.

Get a minimum 50% off with the "haveadreamyday" promo code, and... have a dreamy day. Original, no?
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04-06-2006, 06:15 AM
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Quote:Have you seen the rifle carrying Al-Sadr militia guys - wearing face covers (and not women)? Concealing identity is a tactic. Repressive regimes always want "papers."

anonymous may be a tactic for people avoiding the law, but when it comes to complaining it just invalidates your remarks. For instance I could post anonymously and say that "I and several other people had been riped off by dreamhost becuase they took my money without ever giving me hosting". Without some willingness to stand behind my comments it's meaningless jabber. I just made it up, and I said 'several others'' becuase I read bad reviews on the BBB.

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04-06-2006, 08:13 AM
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Quote:the fact that they conceal their identities means they aren't prepared to stand by their statements

Have you seen the rifle carrying Al-Sadr militia guys - wearing face covers

when it comes to complaining it just invalidates your remarks. For instance I could post anonymously and say that "I and several other people had been riped off by dreamhost becuase they took my money without ever giving me hosting". Without some willingness to stand behind my comments it's meaningless jabber. I just made it up, and I said 'several others'' becuase I read bad reviews on the BBB.

Proposition: Concealing identity equals not willing to stand by statements.

Argument Against:

The extreme militia example illustrates the contrary - they are prepared to stand, and fall fighting, by their statements, although they conceal their identity.

I am prepared to stand by my statements, although I conceal my identity.

You may or not be prepared to stand by your statements - probably not the statements you made up - although you conceal your identity.

Simon may or not be prepared to stand by his statements - probably not, or not convincingly - although he does not conceal his identity.

Identity is a convenient short cut for credibility, but it is not a guarantee. People who were always wrong can start geting it right, and vice versa.

When you see anonymous speech, and want to know, "who is that," you are taking the first step towards ad hominum attack, or pre-judging, which takes the conversation away from the issue and facts.

For the anti-DH website, you can check parts of their story, and judge by the fact they went to the effort, how well (or not) presented, dates and number of stories, etc. None of that guarantees they aren't a competitor spreading BS. OTOH, knowing they're John Jacob from London wouldn't make it any more or less credible, except in the unlikely event you know him. Finding an affiliate link to a competitor could push the balance more strongly.

Some of the most honest stories are told by anonymous sources. So are some of the most dishonest. Buyer beware. YMMV.

But, I could be making all that up too. :-)

Jabber jabber.
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04-06-2006, 08:27 AM
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Quote:Simon may or not be prepared to stand by his statements - probably not, or not convincingly - although he does not conceal his identity.
Excuse me? What statements of mine have you found unconvincing, exactly?

I have found that statements always carry more credibility when anonymity is waived. A valid and working example of this fact can be seen in the Amazon.com Real Name system, which has been extremely successful.

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04-06-2006, 09:35 AM
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I have some new information about this that I found rather ironic. The Better Business Bureau, who rated DreamHost "F", are themselves hosted by WorldNic.

WorldNic are better known as Network Solutions, who are also rated by the LABB. Can you guess what that rating is?

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04-06-2006, 09:37 AM
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Quote:What statements of mine have you found unconvincing, exactly?

:-) Most of them. :-)

Seriously though, in this thread: Just plain faulty:
Quote:the fact that they conceal their identities means they aren't prepared to stand by their statements, and therefore their comments are essentially meaningless.
and pure supposition, though not bad guesses:
Quote:Perhaps some of them were booted out for spamming, or maybe because they ran applications that were full of security holes or resource hogs.

Quote:I have found that statements always carry more credibility when anonymity is waived.

You haven't been listening to politicians. Unless you're more happy with half-truths than 10%-truths or complete lies, you haven't been listening to sales people either. :-)

Quote:Amazon.com Real Name system, which has been extremely successful.

Fake name reviews, with voting, etc. are extremely successful too.
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