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09-13-2005, 01:52 PM
Post: #31
So, no backup power supply at DH???
Um, you are getting hysterical. I don't think there's much point in replying to your message, though I would appreciate if you didn't build so many straw men. It's disrespectful and annoying. As I said, if you're not satisfied then leave. It's a simple business decision, nothing more.
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09-13-2005, 01:56 PM
Post: #32
So, no backup power supply at DH???
shad, have you identified whether the problem is with Dreamhost's network or one of the carriers between them and the remote client? I have intermittent connectivity problems with sites in LA in general, like newegg.com, so I think the carriers are having issues in general.
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09-13-2005, 02:05 PM
Post: #33
So, no backup power supply at DH???
Quote:Um, you are getting hysterical. I don't think there's much point in replying to your message, though I would appreciate if you didn't build so many straw men. It's disrespectful and annoying. As I said, if you're not satisfied then leave. It's a simple business decision, nothing more.
I debunk many of your statements, thus pointing out you don't really know what you're talking about, so you decide to make it personal by saying I'm "getting hysterical." Riiiiight. That's disrespectful.

And while we're on the topic of disrespectfulness, lest not forget the many ways you've demonstrated that quality. Throughout this thread you've belittled those who are still having problems with their sites. You've stated there's just a "few stragglers" even though we now know that's not the case. You've spread misinformation, blatantly inviting information.

Now you're telling me if I'm not satisfied I should leave. Maybe you haven't noticed, but the majority of my discussion in this thread has been simply to debunk your false statements, prevent the spread of misinformation and provide some defense for those with problems whom you've been attacking.

If you've got a problem with that, perhaps you should leave. It's a simple integrity decision, nothing more.
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09-13-2005, 02:07 PM
Post: #34
So, no backup power supply at DH???
Yeah, our trace shows this from AZ

to site A:
126ms 277ms 61ms 67.17.162.162 ge1-gx.dreamhost.com
60ms Timed out Timed out 205.196.214.114 basic-echo.happy.dreamhost.com

and here is to site B:
880ms 56ms 880ms 4.78.192.66 ge1-l3.dreamhost.com
then it times out on my site (we have our own IP at this site)

I will add more from the other locations, but everyone went home : (
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09-13-2005, 02:27 PM
Post: #35
So, no backup power supply at DH???
That was indeed the point I was trying to make. Thank you for restating it more clearly! Wink
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09-13-2005, 02:29 PM
Post: #36
So, no backup power supply at DH???
LOL ... SCREW THIS...

IM MOVING TO CHIHOST.COM...

They offer the same features DH does and they are located in central U.S. Furthermore, their track record is pretty good concidering what ive read online. Atleast those guys have freakin phone support so I can acctually talk to a live human being instead of groping in the dark looking for answers. Ive learned my leason. Never ever be hypnotized by pretty graphics and flash animations on business websites....

god bless DH... Tongue
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09-13-2005, 02:32 PM
Post: #37
So, no backup power supply at DH???
Quote:Now you're telling me if I'm not satisfied I should leave. Maybe you haven't noticed, but the majority of my discussion in this thread has been simply to debunk your false statements, prevent the spread of misinformation and provide some defense for those with problems whom you've been attacking.
I have attacked none of the people who are having problems, nor have I belittled their problems. Neither have I spread misinformation, nor have you provided information. You have passed hearsay and personal opinions as fact, which curiously is what you are accusing me of doing. Yes, I think you're being hysterical; it would be much more productive of you to calm down and look at things objectively, but instead you start randomly flailing at someone who doesn't share your panic. You grasp to every statement made by Dreamhost, and portray it in the worst possible light. In fact, you've basically called Dreamhost liars. That is not debunking, that's simply defamatory.

Quote:If you've got a problem with that, perhaps you should leave. It's a simple integrity decision, nothing more.
My integrity is not in question. I have shared with you my experiences during this ordeal. I have also performed tests to see whether my hypothesis on what's going on is correct, and so far everything has panned out. I have experience with situations like what Dreamhost is going through, so I have tried to assure you that things aren't as bad as you and chrisjj seem to think. I have not been saying that nothing is wrong, which has been your favorite straw man, but rather that given the circumstances things could be far worse and that the worst is behind. You, on the other hand, have been busy providing not one iota of information beyond your own experiences, as well as attacking me when I have tried to provide you with an alternate perspective.

When I have suggested that Dreamhost's professionalism depends on how they respond to these events, chrisjj has responded by strongly suggesting that Dreamhost people are incompetent rookies no matter what they do. I don't see that being particularily productive either, especially since both of you seem hell-bent on staying aboard.
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09-13-2005, 02:52 PM
Post: #38
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You people have serious psychological issues....

The fact of the matter is that this ordeal was unexpected. However given the fact that the company has gone through simillar ordeals in the past, they should have been amply prepared to recover from such disasters in a timely maner. Fabricated statments like "All our generators went down!" or "The main pipe line burst flooding our office" or "Our Backbone is fractured" is not going to cut it. Uncredible statments like these further degrade the company's image. Most other hosting companies in the hardest hit areas are up and running full speed (eg powweb) yet DH is still fiddling with equipment while customers are being affected. How many disasters should they go through to sharpen up? in conclusion, DH must evolve quickly in adapting to unexpected mishaps like such power outages.

On the other hand we consumers must learn from such experiences as well. Learn how to throughly do your research before signing up for hosting. keep backups on disk. the more informed you are, the better off you will be with a more reliable hosting company. so it works both ways. they cant deliver quality service and we consumers are such idiots that we must choose a lowsy hosting company and then sit down and cry and moan like morans in discussion forums. lets learn from this exerpience and atleast try to coduct a more prosperous business in the future.

~best regards
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09-13-2005, 03:27 PM
Post: #39
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Let's do this point-by-point then.

Quote:Neither have I spread misinformation
FALSE
Fact 1: You stated "It was easily recovered from" when the actual facts are the problem has yet to be recovered from. Stating that the problems have been recovered from is false. You even later effectively retraced your own statement.

Fact 2: You stated "Look at DirectNIC, the only ISP who stayed in business through the hurricane Katrina, and is still operating." As noted, some of DirectNIC's services did stop operating.

The rest of your recent post can be disputed with ease, just as the above statement. Maybe you should just own up to the fact that some of your initial statements were rash generalizations which resulted in them being fictional.
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09-13-2005, 03:30 PM
Post: #40
So, no backup power supply at DH???
Serious pyschological issues...
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