What ? plz tell me


#1

Hello There !

I have visit another web-site cus of i’m looking for a game-arcade script … And i can see that i shall bay a web-hotel here on dreamhost is it tru that ill get a game-arcade script when i have a domain hostet in dreamhost ?

Best Regards Anders P.

[b]Anders P[b/]


#2

No. Someone here has a site that has arcade games, but it might not be legal. DreamHost does not give away or sell, arcade games.

-Scott


#3

i cut see a site there is giving me a free arcade-game script if i bay some things on dreamhost ??

[b]Anders P[b/]


#4

DreamHost won’t give you any arcade game scripts. If you found a site that said that you would get that when signing up with DreamHost, I suggest that you contact that site instead.


#5

I think that it’s a scamming site please read this:

Important Note

After signing up you will receive an email from DreamHost stating your login info, domain name, FTP details and so on. We need you to forward this email to us in order to setup your account properly, create your database, import the game packs and install the script, so pls send it as soon as you get it to web@arcadebuilder.net so we can schedule your installation. Of course, you can change any default password later when we finish the installation for your security.

If you can read it then you can see it…

[b]Anders P[b/]


#6

You can report abuse on that site to:

http://www.fileforwarding.com/us_report.php

It’s hosted on fileforwarding.com and is a free hosting site. The site arcadebuilder.com was started Oct 3, 2006, so looks like it might be a spammer, or someone trying to take down DH servers.

Hard to say, but never send your ftp information to any one you don’t know and wouldn’t trust taking care of your children!

Good luck


#7

Disregarding the possible copyright issues relating to the arcade games for a moment; you should be aware that if you follow the links on that site and sign-up for DreamHost hosting, the person/people running that site will be awarded US$97 as a ‘rewards payment’ from DreamHost for referring you to them.

I noticed that they do offer a promo-code on the site, but they do not state if that code provides any discount for your hosting purchase. I would guess that it does not.

Overall, I would strongly advise you to avoid the offer and, as others have said, never give your DreamHost account details to any 3rd party that you do not trust absolutely.

Mark


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#8

[quote] think that it’s a scamming site please read this:

Important Note

After signing up you will receive an email from DreamHost stating your login info, domain name, FTP details and so on. We need you to forward this email to us in order to setup your account properly, create your database, import the game packs and install the script, so pls send it as soon as you get it to web@arcadebuilder.net so we can schedule your installation. Of course, you can change any default password later when we finish the installation for your security.

If you can read it then you can see it…[/quote]
[color=#CC0000]DO NOT SEND THEM THAT EMAIL![/color]

They are most probably scammers. If you do, they will have TOTAL access to your account and they will have the power to do anything. Send spam. Host child porn. You name it.


#9

thank’s guys i have reportet it now…

[b]Anders P[b/]


#10

Just a note to remind:

It doesn’t matter how serious and nice they are. NEVER SEND THAT INFORMATION WHATSOEVER! No one that is serious would ever request it.


#11

Actually, since both domains are using Namecheap’s WHOIS Guard, that’s probably just his hosting/reseller account, so it’s probably reporting him to himself.

I would send abuse reports to abuse (at) noc4hosts.com and abuse (at) dreamhost.com. When contacting Dreamhost, include that his affiliate ID number is 243953.


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#12

I wouldn’t trust them, but technically, it could be legit. Asking for the email makes it sound like a scam, but there are plenty of script providers that will install things for your (for a fee, usually), which does require you to give them access.

If the games are legal and he owns them, or has redistribution rights, then technically he’s simply charging $97 for them, whether he wants to call it buying the game, or paying him to install a free game.

Or he could be paying for the games and just pocketing the difference. I’m really not into games, so I don’t know what’s available out there as far as freebies or reseller programs.

His Dreamhost referrer ID is 243953, so DH can easily see who he is and if he’s doing anything wrong. Let DH know about it (abuse [at] dreamhost.com ).

It does also say this on the page: “Want the full pack to be installed in your own host? Contact us for a quote” So, I’m guessing he’ll install it anywhere for somewhere around $97.

IF he is legit, this is probably what he should be doing:

“Get our game script for free when you sign up for Dreamhost through our referral link. Once we receive credit for the sign-up, you will have access to the game. We can also install it for free if you supply us with your login info, which you can change again when we’re done.”

If he is legit, he could also get screwed with his current setup. Someone could sign up at DH, get his free script, then cancel the DH plan and host it where ever they want–and the guy won’t get his referral fee.


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#13

That’s true. This does not have to be a scammer. Whoever is behind the arcade game scripts site may be a good guy. But it’s a really dangerous thing to be naive and believe that everyone is good guys who just wants your best. There is a lot of bad people on the Internet and there is a big risk that this might be one of them.


#14

Actually, a little bit of research shows that he might actually be legit. He’s asking for username and password so he can install the system on the dreamhost server. The games look to be flash based, whether he really has the rights for distribution or not is hard to tell.

DH could definitely tell you if he’s kosher though!


#15

I’m still suspicious since those things are very easy to install. It would be very easy to almost anyone to install it on their own.


#16

Hi

I found this thread when googling and decided to signup here to put things clear.
Im who was offering the game script in exchange of the dreamhost commission at www.arcadebuilder.net, and as someone said here, there is nothing ilegal with it. I perfectly know that anyone can get the site installed and cancel his account the next day, but this was my risk, that´s why I was also offering 16 weekly game packs updates with the script (16 weeks = 4 months) with the intention to keep the webmaster hosted at DH

Again, there is nothing ilegal with that, anyway I understand your concerns giving your login details away, but as someone said before there a tons of script providers that offer free or paid installations, and they will always ask you for your FTP details.

Because I received lot of question regarding why I was asking that info I decided to cancel the deal through the DH affiliate program, so now the script and games are offered for cash instead. Coz I liked the number since the begining I kept the $97 value for it with free installation (is obvious I will need your FTP details again to install it) but anyone can also buy it with no installation and retrieve the necessary zipfiles. Just keep in mind that zipped files are about 150mb for the default install.

So finally, just wanted to make things clear,
1- there is nothing wrong asking for your FTP details if you need installation
2- Im honest 100%, i have resell right over the script written by a hired programmer, games are public and can be redistributed as you want
3- if you feel uncomfortable giving FTP details, interested people can install it themselves, is really easy and comes with a custom installer (same for game packs)
4- is good to say that was MY FAULT trying the mentioned marketing method, at first I thought it would be a great deal, however I sold more packs asking for cash than giving them for free so I decided not to offer the free installs anymore in exchange the aff commission.
5- script and game database are really a bargain :slight_smile:

if someone wants to confirm this post you can write me at web [at] arcadebuilder [dot] net

thanks for your time


#17

Arc -

Thanks for stopping by and clarifying the situation. Obviously we were confused by the user’s messages, it seemed like he was asking us to install it for him or that it would magically show up. You have to agree that given the conversation our responses weren’t too far out of line.

Good luck on your business!

Wholly


#18

Sure, no problem
And yes, the first post was not clear enough, hope all is OK now


#19

Thanks for posting that; I’m sure it will be of help in clarifying the situation for other users.

I think another thing to remember about providing login information to third parties to facilitate installation of software (which, as you correctly point out is very common), is that common sense dictates one should “change the login password” once such an installation is completed., :wink:

–rlparker


#20

I’d keep doing what you were doing with Dreamhost referrals, and also offering cash installs. That way you target both people that need hosting and people that are very happy with their current host. You could even expand and add other hosts with affiliate programs, to give your potential customers even more choices.

I mentioned in my other post that the only thing that really looked funny about it is asking for the email to be forwarded to you. Even though you end up with the login info anyway, I think people will be less suspicious if you ask for it if/when they want you to install it, then just request a user name & pass, instead of the complete email.

Personally, I’d do it like this. “Get our script free when you sign up through our web hosting link.” Then, you can also add something like, “If you’d like us to install it after we verify your hosting account, will will do it free of charge–but we will need your FTP login info to do it (you can always change it again when we’re done!).”

Then, like you were already doing, off the same exact thing for a fee for people that already have a host they’re happy with.

I don’t think the problem was what you were doing, I just think it worded in a way that made you seem to eager to get login info, which is what makes people suspicious. If they see that you’ll give them the same deal IF they want to install it themselves, then it’s harder for them to say you’re fishing for login info.

Good luck!


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