DreamObjects Third Party compatible apps

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#1

I’ve been looking around trying to find third-party compatible apps for backup. The wiki page lists a few, like Cyberduck and CrossFTP, but I’m really looking for a tool that does full automated backup and wanted to see if anyone else found any good tools?

So, far, this is my progress (note I’m on a Mac, so focused on that)

  • duplicati: http://code.google.com/p/duplicati/
    Its an S3 based backup tool that appears to allow you to edit the host name, but the UI on the Mac was so bad, it was hard to use. Maybe the windows client is better?

  • Arq: http://www.haystacksoftware.com/arq/index.php
    Its an S3 based backup tool, but doesn’t let you edit the hostname. I contacted the developer to see if they would add support, and posted a topic in their forum

  • xTwin: http://www.adnx.com/i/apps/xtwin4mac
    Its an S3 based backup tool (and others like SFTP), but doesn’t let you edit the hostname. I contacted the developer to see if they would add support.

Others?


#2

Would be nice if Dreamhost provided some working examples of the setup required in the for the suggested 3rd party programs!

Bill D.


#3

Hey folks! Thanks for chiming in. So glad to have you testing DreamObjects :slight_smile:

I have been using duplicity to backup my computer for DreamObjects for months while we’ve been in internal testing. It rocks!

Here is how I execute it on the command line:

duplicity --allow-source-mismatch /path/to/xyz s3://objects.dreamhost.com/my-bucket/backup-xyz

You can find more about duplicity here:

http://duplicity.nongnu.org/

I installed it using Homebrew for Mac OS X – http://mxcl.github.com/homebrew


#4

For a WP plugin, I’ve been working on this: https://github.com/Ipstenu/dreamobjects

It’s not official, but it works with wp-cli too. Suggestions/bug reports are welcome :wink:


#5

Good call Bill. I’ll work on adding that to our wiki.


#6

I did a very brief test of DragonDisk and it also worked with DreamObjects:

http://www.dragondisk.com

The interface is not great in my opinion, but it has a lot of interesting features.


#7

I found a full feature backup tool that allows you to change the host name here (windows only): http://www.2brightsparks.com/syncback/sbpro.html

It connects, reads and creats buckets, but when attempting to transfer files for backup, it errors with:
Failed to copy from Source : Cloud error 403: HTTP/1.1 403 Forbidden

So close, yet so far :slight_smile:


#8

A 403 response likely means one of two things:

  1. The access and/or secret key isn’t correct when connecting to objects.dreamhost.com

  2. SyncBackPro may allow you to change the entry for the host name but it’s not saving it and really connecting to Amazon S3.

Hopefully the problem is #1 but I’ve seen #2 happen in other applications.


#9

What’s a good client that works similarly to the dropbox client? I want to be able to have multiple clients sync directly with the server.


#10

We’re actively looking at options for this now! I don’t know anything that will just work by changing a hostname but I’d love to know if there are.


#11

I found this one which seems like it would work: http://www.goodsync.com/
It’s for Mac and windows and includes an S3 option. The documentation says you can change the host name, but that seems broken on the Mac version. Haven’t tried windows version yet.


#12

Tried to use Goodsync and Syncovery. Both work with Amazon S3 but did not work with my DreamObjects account.
I Found this one - SyncbackPro - http://www.2brightsparks.com/welcome/sbpro.html - that works as a sync tool AND works with Dreamobjects. I´m testing it uploading my photo folder. Estimated time: 18 hours.
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Wrote this message too fast. SyncBackPro connects with my DreamObjects account, sees my buckets and also performs a sync simulation. But, when it begins to work, no file can be uploaded. See an extract of the error log below.

Profile Name: Frick Photos
Source: E:\compartilhados\fotos\2012
Amazon S3: \2012
Cloud: Amazon S3 is on the cloud.
Trigger: Manual

05/10/2012 01:17:12
\0212-03-08 mixirica\IMG_0942.JPG
Error: Failed to copy from Source : Cloud error 403: HTTP/1.1 403 Forbidden


#13

I’m reproducing exactly the same problem with Syncback. Looks very promising though.


#14

Gladinet Cloud (http://gladinet.com/) works superbly with DreamObjects. For Windows - integrates with Windows Explorer as a mapped drive. Also has backup module.

More info on the plans and costs (free version vs. $50 version for lifetime license) at http://gladinet.com/plans.html, good info at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gladinet
I’ve used it for three years, very flexible. Works with multiple (more than a dozen!) providers like rackspace, Amazon S3, any Amazon S3 compatible service (such as DreamObjects), Box.net, Google drive (formerly Google Docs), Microsoft Live Skydrive, Peer1, any WebDav (anonymous or generic), any FTP (anonymous or logged in) and others. One big advantage I found when comparing with other packages three years ago when I researched and bought it is the desktop interface, with ability to map to a drive and Windows treats it like any other mapped drive in Windows Explorer. Can mount and unmount drives at will (useful for security if someone else will use your computer.) Can encrypt, can backup. Well written and well supported by email and by support wiki, no phone support available but largely self explanatory. Another advantage: no monthly or annual fee. Supposedly (per web site, I did not verify) was awarded PC Magazine’s The Best Free Software of 2012 award for Backup/Sync/Storage.

Other competitors for S3 access that I recently researched but haven’t tried the product (I was searching for WebDav access but didn’t realize Gladinet Cloud already has it!) are as follows. I have not tried them but read their websites for comparisons and features I needed and they look promising for various reasons:

SouthRiverTech for S3, http://www.southrivertech.com/
http://www.southrivertechnologies.com/products/webdrive/S3_Client.html
http://www.southrivertech.com/download/index.html for trial
To buy $70/year, $95/two years: http://sites.fastspring.com/south/product/webdrive?action=adds
Looks like high quality, well marketed product. Did not check to see if it can be adapted to DreamObjects, or source code adapted to do so.

CarotDAV - http://rei.to/carotdav_en.html
For windows only. Free of charge, compliant with multiple standards, source code available. Works with SkyDrive, Dropbox, GoogleDrive, Box and SugarSync. No mapping of drives - seems to act like an FTP client (also runs with FTPS, see main webpage for all features and standards.) Per web page, “CarotDAV is a Simple WebDAV / FTP / SkyDrive / DropBox / GoogleDrive / Box / SugarSync client for Windows OS, available free of charge. It is also able to read GoogleDocs or IMAP.”

tntDrive - http://tntdrive.com/
For mapping S3 buckets as network drives.
$40 for pro, free 30-day trial
http://tntdrive.com/buypro.php to download or purchase

S3 Browser - http://s3browser.com/ by the same company is free, and can map a bucket as a drive, seems to act like a Windows Explorer for the S3 drive. Not sure if either the tntDrive or the S3 Browser can be adapted to DreamObjects, or source code adapted to do so, did not check into that.


#15

Gladinet Cloud (http://gladinet.com/ ) works superbly with DreamObjects. For Windows - integrates with Windows Explorer as a mapped drive. Also has backup module.

More info on the plans and costs (free version vs. $50 version for lifetime license) at http://gladinet.com/plans.html, good info at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gladinet
I’ve used it for three years, very flexible. Works with multiple (more than a dozen!) providers like rackspace, Amazon S3, any Amazon S3 compatible service (such as DreamObjects), Box.net, Google drive (formerly Google Docs), Microsoft Live Skydrive, Peer1, any WebDav (anonymous or generic), any FTP (anonymous or logged in) and others. One big advantage I found when comparing with other packages three years ago when I researched and bought it is the desktop interface, with ability to map to a drive and Windows treats it like any other mapped drive in Windows Explorer. Can mount and unmount drives at will (useful for security if someone else will use your computer.) Can encrypt, can backup. Well written and well supported by email and by support wiki, no phone support available but largely self explanatory. Another advantage: no monthly or annual fee. Supposedly (per web site, I did not verify) was awarded PC Magazine’s The Best Free Software of 2012 award for Backup/Sync/Storage.

Other competitors for S3 access that I recently researched but haven’t tried the product (I was searching for WebDav access but didn’t realize Gladinet Cloud already has it!) are as follows. I have not tried them but read their websites for comparisons and features I needed and they look promising for various reasons:

SouthRiverTech for S3, http://www.southrivertech.com/
http://www.southrivertechnologies.com/products/webdrive/S3_Client.html
http://www.southrivertech.com/download/index.html for trial
To buy $70/year, $95/two years: http://sites.fastspring.com/south/product/webdrive?action=adds
Looks like high quality, professional, well marketed product (expensive!) Did not check to see if it can be adapted to DreamObjects, or source code adapted to do so.

CarotDAV - http://rei.to/carotdav_en.html
For windows only. Free of charge, compliant with multiple standards, source code available. Works with SkyDrive, Dropbox, GoogleDrive, Box and SugarSync. No mapping of drives - seems to act like an FTP client (also runs with FTPS, see main webpage for all features and standards.) Per web page, “CarotDAV is a Simple WebDAV / FTP / SkyDrive / DropBox / GoogleDrive / Box / SugarSync client for Windows OS, available free of charge. It is also able to read GoogleDocs or IMAP.”

tntDrive - http://tntdrive.com/
For mapping S3 buckets as network drives.
$40 for pro, free 30-day trial
http://tntdrive.com/buypro.php to download or purchase

S3 Browser - http://s3browser.com/ by the same company is free, and can map a bucket as a drive, seems to act like a Windows Explorer for the S3 drive. Not sure if either the tntDrive or the S3 Browser can be adapted to DreamObjects, or source code adapted to do so, did not check into that.


#16

Thanks for all your reports everyone! I’m trying to get in touch with as many third party applications as possible to make using DreamObjects as easy as possible.


#17

gladinet has an option in account settings that asks for a bucket name but appears to want a URL of some sort. Any idea what to put there? It looks like this:

otherwise it looked good and I’ll be happy to report findings back.
thanks!

—I also am looking for dropbox-esque functionality for personal/business backup but like the idea of storing web data there as well as I may be foraying into ecommerce in the near future.

also - steed looked good in my search but the server address was locked to amazon. Not sure if they’d be open to change, but the UI seemed good for entry level users. also in beta.
http://www.frenchfrysoftware.com/steed/


#18

In Gladinet Cloud, the URL (default) for “S3 compatible storage” provider would be http://s3.amazonaws.com in order to use Amazon S3 as the storage medium.

For DreamObjects use
http://objects.dreamhost.com
and it works perfectly.
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Justin,
Gladinet seems to have a fairly active partnership program - see the list of partners on their main page. AT&T, Google, Nuance, Mezeo, Oscality, EMC2, and HP Cloud Services. For example, I was shopping for and bought Nuance “PDF Create!” and they offered a cloud service, so I bought it. Turns out it was a version of Gladinet’s cloud drive! So they are apparently willing to allow third parties to repackage their product and offer it in the third party’s name. Might be worth considering to make it turnkey for DreamObjects. (No, I don’t work for them, and there are pros and cons and I’d love to try one of those other clients for my S3 access, like SouthRiverTech, or Sneed mentioned above, tntDrive, etc. But for DreamObjects so far I like Gladinet better. Smooth interface, flexible for my needs. I don’t do public sharing of files but I think it can even handle that.)


#19

now that I realized the error message was for the server address rather than the bucket name (d’oh!) gladinet functions just swimmingly. thanks for the help.


#20

Thanks for the recommendation. I’ll talk to them and see if they’re willing to add DreamObjects to their list of supported cloud storage choices.