Buying an existing domain name


#1

Friend of mine can no longer keep his website up to date so he is selling the name to me as well as the contents. I know what to do with the contents but how would I buy his domain? He gets a lot of hits so we are thinking it might be grabbed by porn or whatever faster than I can get it, if I wait until it expires. Can I do it before it expires? (which would be 1 July 2003)

Thanks

HR

Where are we going and why are we in this basket?
mine - http://holyroller.org
dog’s - http://joella.holyroller.org


#2

Okay, my specialization here. :wink:

Don’t wait till it expires. Initiate an ownership transfer which should be farily easy for most registrars. Do you mind if I ask WHICH registrar that domain name is registered with? If you are not sure, go check it out at http://www.internic.net/whois.html and I may tell you a bit more.


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#3

The WhoIs site is not working. I get an error page with HTML code.

I have sent an email off to Jeff to find out who the registar is and who the host is.

The site is http://www.wheelchairmodifications.org/

Will keep checking the WhoIs site.

HR

Where are we going and why are we in this basket?
mine - http://holyroller.org
dog’s - http://joella.holyroller.org


#4

Registrant:
Hosting-Network, Inc. (WHEELCHAIRMODIFICATIONS-ORG-DOM)
This domain is owned by a FeaturePrice.Com Customer.
1516 Jackson Street
Ft.Myers, FL 33901
USA
1-800-605-4883
bedns@bedns.com

Domain Name: WHEELCHAIRMODIFICATIONS.ORG

Administrative Contact:
Hosting-Network, Inc. bedns@bedns.com
1516 Jackson Street
Ft.Myers, FL 33901
USA
1-800-605-4883

Technical Contact, Zone Contact:
Hosting-Network, Inc. bedns@bedns.com
1516 Jackson Street
Ft.Myers, FL 33901
USA
1-800-605-4883

Record last updated on 20-Dec-2002.
Record expires on 03-Jul-2003.
Record created on 03-Jul-2001.

Domain servers in listed order:

Name Server: ns1.fastnameserv.com
Name Server: ns2.fastnameserv.com

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From the whois lookup, wheelchairmodifications.org is registered with DotRegistrar.com and hosted by FeaturePrice.Com.

One thing is that your hosting company (i.e. FeaturePrice.Com, bedns@bedns.com) is listed as the Administrative Contact. I don’t know if this name is part of the hosting package where you get a free domain in which case you might want to find out who really is the OWNER. This is very important because you’ll need to acknowledge any transfer request sent to that e-mail address.


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#5

So what is the first step? Contact the registar and request a transfer? Or will Jeff have to do that?

I don’t know about the owner part. I will ask Jeff about that too.

The hosting will of course be DreamHost as well as the registar being, um, domainitron?

I will check out the host’s site and see what I come up with. Thanks for your help so far!

HR

Where are we going and why are we in this basket?
mine - http://holyroller.org
dog’s - http://joella.holyroller.org


#6

I guess the first step is to contact Hosting-Network, Inc. (FeaturePrice.Com) who registered wheelchairmodifications.org on your (friend’s) behalf.

Ask them to first change the Administrative Contact back to your friend (with HIS/YOUR an e-mail). As mentioned, you cannot do anything without this. Since the whois lookup clearly states that “This domain is owned by a FeaturePrice.Com Customer”, don’t think they would refuse to do so.

AFTER THAT, call them up again to have the registrant (currently “Hosting-Network, Inc.”) changed to your friend’s name who is the real, existing owner of the domain. If they are not co-operating, do a transfer away from the DotRegistrar. (It would be usually easier than asking DotRegistrar to do an ownership transfer.)

You don’t NEED to go with Domainitron to have your domain hosted at DreamHost, but folks here will be definitely happier and they will be more than happy to walk you through. :slight_smile: Hope this helps.


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#7

[quote]You don’t NEED to go with Domainitron to have your domain
hosted at DreamHost, but folks here will be definitely happier and
they will be more than happy to walk you through. :slight_smile:

[/quote]

In the interest of full disclosure, we’re NOT the cheapest registrar out there - nor the most expensive. :>

One of the biggest benefits of having us as your registrar is the convenience and peace of mind in having everything all handled by one company, and a company you can trust (in my humble-but-biased opinion!).

While we’re probably a bit ‘happier’ helping with DH-registered domains (we have an affinity for our paychecks :>), the main thing is that it’s kind of annoying to have to tell people to go to their registrar to make a change. It’s much easier to support something when we’re familiar with it, can give step-by-step instructions, etc.

Also, there are some shady registrars out there, not to mention some fairly unresponsive ones. There ARE some good ones too, I’m sure, though I haven’t used anyone else since we started offering it. Anyone who wants to post a comparison between the different options, please feel free. We’re not that afraid of the competition. :>

Those with a lot of experience in handling domain registration, or those registering tons of domains on a regular basic, might be best off with a cheap registration service. Then again, it’s still nice to have everything under one ‘roof’. Like anything, it depends on your needs.

On a related note, since this came up: DH-registered domains are 100% owned by the person who registered them, not matter what (well, until it expires at least). This even applies to those domains provided with our free domain registration promotion. We get asked about this pretty often.

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#8

The flip side of the “under-the-same-roof” advantage is the “all-your-eggs-in-the-same-basket” disadvantage: if something should go wrong with the company that handles both your Web hosting and your domain registration, either technical (their servers all go down for an extended time), financial (they go into bankruptcy and are in limbo), or ethical (they try to hold customer sites hostage to squeeze more money out of the site owners) (not that I expect Dreamhost to do any of those things; I’m just speaking generally), then you could have a hard time extricating yourself from the situation; on the other hand, if one or the other of those services is with a different company, you can deal with problems more easily, such as by redirecting the DNS on domains registered elsewhere to a new hosting provider.

Granted, if you’re a novice, having everything in one place makes maintenance easier, but “power users” shouldn’t have much problem dealing with the interfaces of multiple registrars and hosting providers. Some registrars charge as low as $8 a year (varying depending on whether it’s a new registration, a renewal, or a transfer, and what special offers are in effect at any given time).

– Dan


#9

To be fair, Jeff has mentioned that DreamHost is “NOT the cheapest registrar out there - nor the most expensive” when they come to domain names. And my personal experience tells me that you don’t NEED to go for the lowest price because price isn’t everything.

Similarly DreamHost isn’t the least expensive host around; but honestly speaking, I have been looking for an alternative over the past couple of years to no avail! :wink:


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#10

(dtobias)

[quote]The flip side of the “under-the-same-roof” advantage is the “all
your-eggs-in-the-same-basket” disadvantage

[/quote]

True enough!

Really, I think the biggest thing to keep in mind in all this is that you should always put your money into whatever solution fits for your own specific needs. There is no such thing as a “one size fits all” service/technology. What works for the occasional domain buyer isn’t always what is best for the guy who registered several domains a week.

(prufrock)

[quote]Similarly DreamHost isn’t the least expensive host around; but
honestly speaking, I have been looking for an alternative over
the past couple of years to no avail! :wink:

[/quote]

Ack! Say it ain’t so! :>

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