[BrianB]

Hardly a retreat, Gene. You're not worth responding to because you only answer questions you make up, not those posed. If you want to see why the Gmail transfer might be difficult for users, have someone other than yourself go through the process and be quiet and take notes and see for yourself.

[Gene Steinberg]

Thanks for not answering my questions. You ignore the issue of whether you tried using DreamHost's email from a regular email client, whether you set an IMAP Junk mail folder, etc., etc.

Since you are someone who has used computers since the "git go," tell us what is complicated to you about moving to Gmail?

Please try specifics this time, rather than charges.

Here's what DH's Web panel instructions state to start:

Quote:All you need to do is:
You need to register at Google Apps for your Domain if you haven't already.
Re-create your email accounts over at Google Apps for your Domain.
NOTE: your existing email accounts and messages will not be converted automatically!

You do understand how to copy messages from one account to another via IMAP in an email client, right?

[BrianB]

Gene, you're not worth responding to. I tried all that stuff, it doesn't matter. You're too dense to continue conversing with. The point is that everything you are suggesting means a constant, vigilant effort. I have suggested easy fixes, all you do is shill for a shitty system. Maybe this is why your radio show is unlistenable.

I won't be responding to you any more.

[Gene Steinberg]

I will ignore your childish insults. Clearly you find it more convenient to complain and less convenient to do what's necessary to reduce spam. You claim to have tried "everything" I am suggesting, but cannot provide a single specific example about which steps you tried, and the results you achieved. You weren't, for example, able to figure out how to blacklist addresses in the DH control panel. That is clearly one step you DIDN'T do, because you said you didn't know how.

The transfer to Gmail isn't a "constant, vigilant effort." I moved email from three domains over there in December, close to 75,000 messages. The hard work was done in less than an hour, including very granular configuration of the Gmail accounts. The rest of the time was just waiting out the messages to move from one set of IMAP folders to another. That took a while, but it was nothing that required constant babysitting, or a "constant, vigilant effort."

I would also think if the process were so damned difficult, lots of people would be complaining about it here and elsewhere. Indeed, DH's integration with Gmail makes it far easier to do it within their control panel. I don't know of any other hosts who are doing this, though I grant there might be some.

Understand that I have used a number of email systems from commercial providers (such as Rackspace Email, PolarisMail and others), and the standard ones provided by GoDaddy, 1and1 Internet, hosts who rely on control panels from cPanel and Plesk, plus DreamHost. So I'm fully aware of what's realistic and otherwise.

As to what you think of my radio show, you can't get that right either. I have two, and at least i have a network deal. If you don't like the shows, don't listen. That's why you have choices.

[netdcon]

(02-13-2012 12:24 PM)Gene Steinberg Wrote:  I will ignore your childish insults.

The tinfoil hat is strong with this one. You may need to expand your disdain beyond the mere "childish insult" portion of the program.

[Gene Steinberg]

My reticence occasioned by the fact that I am on traditional radio and must hold my tongue.